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		PECo
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:16 pm    Post subject: Fishing kayak vs. fishing canoe | 
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				I've started thinking about the ideal small fishing boat. While I've always been a kayak guy, I'm coming around to the idea that a canoe would be the ideal boat. I especially like the look of those 12 to 15 foot solo canoes that weigh from 14 to 30 pounds. I think you could even stand in some of them. Native, Bell and Wenonah all make some hot little fishing canoes.
 
 
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		Bass Sniper
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:36 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Well I have a canoe (1973 aluminum square back 13ft) and I think the grass is always greener on the otherside of the fence. I tihnk they both have their ups and downs and applications. I can stand in mine (if im feeling lucky) but if im by myself it takes a lot of man power to get to the other end of the lake(unless i have my electric motor)....the only upside to a canoe that i can think of is that you have room to put all your crap and maybe a fishing buddy or two......but id love a kayak......... _________________ "Taco flavored Doritos 
 
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		PECo
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:45 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Bass Sniper
 
 
Without a deck, canoes are lighter. The only problem I have with my Hobie Pro Angler is the mass, all 160+ lbs of it. How much does your canoe weigh? Could you imagine fishing with a double-bladed paddle from a 13 foot canoe that weighs less than 30 lbs?
 
 
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		Bass Sniper
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:49 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				im not exactly sure but i would imagine my 1973 aluminum sportspal weighs at the very least 60lbs....i had no idea your kayak weighs that much that is a lot... _________________ "Taco flavored Doritos 
 
And my orange life vest 
 
caught a hundred pound sturgeon 
 
On twenty-pound test " | 
			 
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		PECo
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:08 pm    Post subject: Oops! | 
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				Hobie says the Pro Angler is only 138 lbs (yeah, right, only) fully rigged. After you throw the cart wheels and all of your fishing gear on there, I think 150 to 160 lbs is more like it. It handles very well for such a heavy boat, but there are times when I wish it were a lot lighter. The ability to stand up with no tippiness is its best quality. But I'd love to try out a 36 lb canoe on which you could stand, like the Native Ultimate 12 Tegris:
 
 
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		Bass Sniper
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:14 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				personally id rather have a big ol skeeter or nitro or something.....or aquire some gills and....nevermind _________________ "Taco flavored Doritos 
 
And my orange life vest 
 
caught a hundred pound sturgeon 
 
On twenty-pound test " | 
			 
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		DirtyDawg10
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:58 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| That looks like a sweet canoe, Phil. Are you thinking of getting another woman I mean boat already? | 
			 
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		PECo
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:14 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I'm actually thinking about getting a tandem boat of some sort with which I could go paddling or pedaling with my wife. I'm going to try taking her for a cruise on the stern of The Other Woman first, like I've done with my daughter, but would prefer to have her do at least some of the work! _________________ Don't forget to wear sunscreen and don't litter! | 
			 
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		DirtyDawg10
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:24 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				You need to get yourself a family canoe so you your wife and daughter can get out on the water. Or maybe just get a nice bass boat with a big deck    | 
			 
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		SeaDog1
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:55 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Hi Guys!
 
 
Ok! Some of you have Canoe and others Kayaks!
 
No Problem!
 
 
I've tried both and because I'm a big guy found both to be (for me) uncomfortable.
 
 
In a Canoe you have to Kneel to keep the center of gravity low or it gets tippsy.
 
In a Kayak, I felt cramped and in rough Wx you will get WET!
 
 
SO -> I built a wooden square-stern Guideboat, which took me 2 1/2 years to complete.
 
Got and bought the plans from a Canadian Ojibway Indian I met in my travels.
 
 
Boat:
 
Made of White Cedar and Black Walnut!
 
LOA 14 ft. 2 in.
 
42 in. wide
 
1 Main Keel and 2 Half Keels (These make it VERY STABLE)
 
Weight empty 83 lbs.
 
Load Capacity 850 lbs. (Definitely holds my big Butt! LOL)
 
Passenger capacity 3
 
Has 2 rowing stations using 7 1/2 ft. oars.
 
Also has 2 highback seats - one fore and one aft (Like sitting on a chair)
 
Will take up to a 4 hp outboard (I have a 3)
 
 
Since I'm a professional mariner I did the launching right!
 
Named her "Chasse Mare" -> Means Small Coaster.
 
Had my Wife christen her at 1st launch with appropriate launch words and a mini bottle of Champaigne.
 
 
NO Curses on My Baby!!!!!! (BIG SMILE!)
 
 
Best regards,
 
Seadog1 | 
			 
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		PECo
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:21 pm    Post subject: OK | 
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				Um, SeaDog1? So, where's the photo of Chasse Mare?    _________________ Don't forget to wear sunscreen and don't litter! | 
			 
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		SeaDog1
 
  
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				 Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:57 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Hi Phil!
 
 
Will post picture as soon as I can find the darn disc I have it on! LOL   
 
 
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		Bass Sniper
 
  
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				 Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:59 am    Post subject:  | 
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				when i googled my canoe yesterday to find out how much it weighs, I found that Sportspal makes a whole lot of canoes and canoe style boats still to this day and they look like great boats. I didnt see any prices but you should check them out, if for no other reason then mine is from 73........ _________________ "Taco flavored Doritos 
 
And my orange life vest 
 
caught a hundred pound sturgeon 
 
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		SkeeterRon
 
  
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				 Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:32 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Peco,
 
 
If SkeeterJim see this post about the Hobie he would consider it BLASPHEMY..!
 
 
Take a second and look at this boat. (I am the deal for New England)  www.cttwintrollerboats.com
 
 
If you would like to take my demo boat out fishing one day, let me know..
 
 
I think you would end up enjoying it a lot.  Jim and I fish out of mine more than the Skeeters we both own.
 
 
We even took it to breakneck pond (I need a better means of getting it there).
 
 
On a single charge you can get well over 8 hours of fishing time.
 
 
I take the wife along with me on the twin troller, seats are great.
 
 
PM me if you want to take it fishing.
 
 
Ron _________________ Sleep...Eat...Fish!!!!!  Then do it all over again. | 
			 
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		PECo
 
  
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				 Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:19 am    Post subject: Thanks, Ron. . . | 
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				. . .but I want my wife to work a little bit when we're out on the water, even if she only pretends to paddle or pedal. She doesn't fish and I don't want her to get bored when we go out.
 
 
She may not be perfect for every situation, but I love The Other Woman. TurtleKiss doesn't like my little kayak, but I think that it's perfect for tiny rivers with challenging canoe launches like Bantam.
 
 
I'm considering Hobie's inflatable tandem with dual Mirage Drives. My wife could pedal while I fish!   _________________ Don't forget to wear sunscreen and don't litter! | 
			 
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